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From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Do AI data centers “justify” zombie reactors & SMR new builds?!
January 8, 2025
Do AI data centers “justify” zombie reactors & SMR new builds?!
2025-12-15 19:06:41 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
In response to Arnie’s mention of the potential need to evacuate residents if Palisades blows too many degraded steam generator tubes all at once (aka a reactor core meltdown): FEMA@PALISADES
August 16, 2025
2025-12-15 19:07:30 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Public education, activation, and inspiration
2025-12-15 19:11:16 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
To stop them
2025-12-15 19:14:01 From Kathryn Barnes to Everyone:
Ask the tribes to participate also Professor Gordon and Dr Gregory Jachzo wrote a book against nukes—like MacFarland, former NRC director.
I think we need to focus on our side—anti nuke
2025-12-15 19:15:03 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
I agree with Ed’s ideas about Macfarlane (on waste — she’s less opposed to “SMRs” in general, other than the waste generation rates, which are off the charts); M.V. Ramana (he’s on Beyond Nuclear’s advisory board). Add’l ideas: Dr. Gordon Edwards with CCNR — he’s been very outspoken against “SMRs.” Perhaps even Ukrainian anti-nuke leaders opposing Holtec’s 20 “SMRs” targeting Ukraine.
2025-12-15 19:15:16 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Congrats on your Lifetime Achievement Award there, Jan!
2025-12-15 19:17:32 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Jessie Deer In Water could potentially bridge our efforts with the Pokagon Potawatomi in Dowagiac. I know others who have contacts with the Gun Lake Potawatomi in Hastings/Delton area. There are strong Indigenous EJ activists/organizers across Michigan. Many are focused on the Line 5 Canadian tar sands crude oil pipeline fight at the Straits of Mackinac — another existential threat to the Great Lakes, in addition to Palisades and other atomic reactors.
2025-12-15 19:19:32 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Re: locations, I’d previously mentioned Circle Pines Center near Delton/Hastings/Gun Lake Potawatomi, but within the Palisades 50-mile Emergency Planning Zone; and our original idea, to take the fight to the bad guys on the southwest Michigan shore, as at Lake Michigan College in South Haven, and/or Lake Michigan College in Benton Harbor — the very places where Holtec and NRC have sold their snake oil for the past several years.
2025-12-15 19:20:56 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Arnie as another go-to expert presenter for the “SMNR” gathering/event
2025-12-15 19:22:15 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Chris’s idea is good. The nuclear fights and the AI data center fights very much overlap. The latter is the supposed justification for the former. Both Palisades zombie reactor restart, and the SMNR new builds, are supposedly being justified by AI data center new builds.
2025-12-15 19:22:41 From Jan O’Connell, MI Chapter to Everyone:
Michael, Kevin & All – I need to pop off but hope you can send back the items suggested for having an SMR’s Conference possibly in the Spring of ’26
2025-12-15 19:25:13 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Jackzo met with us very near Palisades in South Haven on May 25, 2012. Macfarlane met with us in Benton Harbor in June 2014. In between, we also met with NRC Commissioner Magwood very near Palisades in March 2013. We asked to meet with NRC Commissioner Svinicki in May 2013, but she did not even acknowledge our request. But those four visits by NRC Commissioners (two of them Obama’s NRC chairs; Svinicki Trump’s future NRC chair) was the most, by far, of any reactor in the country. Just in a 2 year time period.
2025-12-15 19:26:26 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Holtec stands by its 2030 fire up date for two SMNRs at Palisades — “SMR-300s” — 300 Megawatts-electric each. Not small. Two “SMR-300s” would nearly double the nuclear megawattage Palisades, from the current 800 MW-e, to 1,400 MW-e.
2025-12-15 19:28:33 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Each SMR-300” would be 4.5 times larger than the 67 MW-e Big Rock Point reactor (Palisades’ sibling, where Holtec wants to build one or more “SMR-300s” as well), and also the 67 MW-e Fermi 1 reactor in Monroe County, Michigan. Big Rock Point had some of the worst releases of hazardous radioactivity of any reactor in the country — more than 3 million Curies from 1962 to 1997. Fermi 1 had a partial core meltdown on Oct. 5, 1966, and “We Almost Lost Detroit.” So imagine what “SMR-300s” could do?!
2025-12-15 19:29:17 From Kathryn Barnes to Everyone:
Yes Circle Pines. Vic MacManemy would probably like that location as well as myself. There’s housing there and not as hard to drive to or in as Chicago etc. I’m not a city person
2025-12-15 19:29:37 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
And “Hoosier” rural electric co-op customers in Illinois as well, despite the inappropriate name!
2025-12-15 19:30:02 From Kathryn Barnes to Everyone:
Circle pines has a history of good activism counter culture etc
2025-12-15 19:31:14 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Here is a write up on Jacko’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Nuclear-Regulator-Gregory-Jaczko/dp/1476755760
2025-12-15 19:31:59 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Another location previously floated was Kalamazoo, Michigan — Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo College, Kalamazoo Valley Community College, etc., are based here.
2025-12-15 19:33:43 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
I think it should be two solid days — such as Saturday and Sunday. Perhaps with a prime the pump Friday evening concert or film showing, and perhaps a Monday morning press conference. We should put in all this organizing effort for a one-day event.
2025-12-15 19:34:23 From Kathryn Barnes to Everyone:
Replying to “I think it should be two solid days — such as Satu…”:
I like that idea
2025-12-15 19:35:19 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
I embrace anti-nuclear. Along the same lines as anti-slavery, anti-fascism, etc. Most clear.
2025-12-15 19:36:14 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
We should NOT put in all this effort for a one-day event
2025-12-15 19:37:44 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Here is a powerful economic critique of new nuclear, a cautionary tale: https://www.nonukesyall.org/pdfs/Vogtle%20Truth%20Report_update_final.pdf
2025-12-15 19:38:58 From Kathryn Barnes to Everyone:
Dr Gregory—-excellent speaker choice
2025-12-15 19:41:59 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
“Over My Dead Body” — LTE in the H-P re: SMR(s) at Palisades
June 1, 2022
2025-12-15 19:42:17 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
And we had Chris Williams on the Zoom earlier
2025-12-15 19:42:32 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
He’s still on the CAC board as far as I know
2025-12-15 19:42:47 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Alfred serves on PSR WI’s board
2025-12-15 19:43:01 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
MI UP, near WI
2025-12-15 19:43:23 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Mitchell lives in MI’s UP, near WI
2025-12-15 19:43:40 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
PSR WI — Ann Behrman, Amy Schulz
2025-12-15 19:44:06 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
NY = Lake Ontario and the Saint Lawrence River — all Great Lakes connected
2025-12-15 19:44:38 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Holtec connection too — SMR-300s at Palisades, Big Rock Point, Indian Point
2025-12-15 19:45:28 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Spring had been previously discussed
2025-12-15 19:46:22 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Chornobyl’s 40th annual commemoration, April 26, 2026
2025-12-15 19:47:56 From Kathryn Barnes to Everyone:
Yes I’m into graphics for this! As well as live streaming etc.
2025-12-15 19:50:36 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
Our cat-herder
2025-12-15 19:53:13 From Bette Pierman to Everyone:
Summit—a conference of highest-level officials (such as heads of government)
2025-12-15 19:53:47 From Kathryn Barnes to Everyone:
An anti nuclear “Be in” happening
2025-12-15 19:54:18 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
ANA has had a DC Days coordinator named Carlos Oliveras for the past few years. He is also looking for paid work. He’s good. I can vouch.
2025-12-15 19:54:41 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
But he is based in Virginia
2025-12-15 19:54:47 From Kathryn Barnes to Everyone:
Remember Kelly kiosch—Walpole island Canada
2025-12-15 19:55:53 From Bette Pierman to Everyone:
Conference: a meeting of two or more persons for discussing matters of common concern.
2025-12-15 19:56:17 From Kevin Kamps to Everyone:
I gotta go
2025-12-15 19:58:05 From Jan Boudart NEIS to Everyone:
Please excuse me, I must go, also —Janb
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